By Tom Gaylord Writing as B.B. Pelletier Umarex Forge. This report covers: • Different • Ballbearing detent • Power • Stock • Size • Picatinny rail • Scope included • Open sights • Trigger • TNT • Synthetics • Where is it made? • Many good things Today we begin looking at an air rifle I have been waiting to review since first seeing it at this year’s SHOT Show.
Every SHOT Show has dramatic new products that all writers scramble to review. Then there are the quiet new products that don’t seem to attract as much attention. But some things I am always looking for fall into this quiet group, and the is one such gun. Different The Forge is a different breakbarrel. For starters, although it develops an advertised 1,250 f.p.s. Ps2 Genji Dawn Of The Samurai Isoniazid. With lead-free pellets, it’s relatively easy to cock!
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Of course I will measure the effort in Part 2, but I’m estimating something around the specified 30 lbs. For a gas piston, that is remarkable! Easy cocking is one thing I am always looking for. At present the Forge comes only in.177 caliber. Ball bearing detent The breech is held shut by a ball bearing.
It’s got a powerful return spring, so you do have to slap the muzzle to open the breech, but it closes smooth and easy. The breech is held shut by a ball bearing. Power Pyramyd Air shows the Forge as a 1,050 f.p.s. Rifle, while the box states 1,250 with lead-free pellets. I guess I will have to sort that out for you in the velocity test. Really, with this kind of power available, I’m more interested in what it will do with heavier lead pellets.
Stock Then there is the all-wood stock. Yes, at a retail price of $150 the Forge has a wood stock, and it’s not what you typically see on a rifle at this price. Typically a wood stock on a $150 rifle is smooth and has an opaque finish over some nondescript hardwood. The Forge stock is dark beech with some grain showing, and the forearm is a semi-beavertail (flares out).
There are panels of sharp checkering on both sides of the forearm and pistol grip. This stock has some shape to it, and it feels nice when shouldered. Size The Forge weighs 7.8 lbs., according to the specs. The rifle I am testing weighs 7 lbs. 10 oz., which is close to the advertised weight.
The overall length is 44-5/8-inches long. Those dimensions make the Forge a large air rifle, but not a heavy one. Picatinny rail A full-length Picatinny rail that runs along the top of the spring tube.
Actually the spring tube sits inside what Umarex calls the Nucleus Rail System. This will make mounting a scope much easier because these days Weaver rings (that fit a Picatinny base) are very common.
Scope included The rifle is sold as a combo, so a 4X32 scope is included with the package. It may not be the last word in optical sights, but it comes bundled with the rifle, so you have a head start on scoping your new airgun.
Open sights The Forge also comes with adjustable open sights! That’s another thing I look for in an inexpensive air rifle. And these sights appear to adjust very precisely. They do have fiberoptics on both front and rear, but the profile of the front blade is square, so with the right lighting (to kill the glow from the fiberoptics) I think I will be able to do some good work. We will find out in the first accuracy test. Open sights are another thing I want on an inexpensive air rifle. The rear sight is precisely adjustable.
Trigger The 2-stage trigger has an adjustment for the length of the first stage, but nothing for the pull weight. I will test the pull for you in part 2 and report on the trigger in greater detail in the accuracy tests. The safety is automatic, unfortunately. But it is easy to release by pushing the lever forward, so it’s not a big distraction. TNT The gas piston in the Forge is something called Turbo Nitrogen Technology, or TNT for short.
The name tells me they used nitrogen (instead of plain air) to pressurize the gas-spring piston unit and that’s what reduced the cocking effort. Synthetics There is a lot of synthetic material on the outside of the Forge. Besides the scope base rail that encloses the spring tube, the barrel ends in a huge synthetic muzzle brake that’s an easy grip for cocking. I looked inside the brake and I think I can see baffles. The sights are mostly synthetic and the triggerguard is, as well. The trigger blade is metal however.
I think the synthetics on the Forge are well done and suit the rifle very well. But I know there are some who will not tolerate any plastic on an airgun, so I’m telling you what’s there. The buttpad is the strangest one I’ve ever seen. It is triangular in shape and occupies a significant portion of the rear of the stock. It’s covered with thin rubber that’s very grippy, so it accomplishes everything we want from a buttpad. And I think it looks sharp! Where is it made?
To come in at this price the Forge has to be made in China. That used to be the kiss of death for an airgun, but in recent times airgun importers have learned that price doesn’t sell guns by itself. They have to work o0r they will tank. I won’t cut the Forge any slack in the test, but on first examination it appears someone who knows the market has had a hand with this development.
Many good things The Forge has a lot going for it. The price is great; it has adjustable sights; the power is good; cocking is easy and the feel and aesthetics of the rifle are very stylish and nice. It looks and feels like a lot more than the retail price. There is just one more thing this rifle needs. If it also turns out to be accurate, I think Umarex will have knocked it out of the park! I’m rooting for it!
This entry was posted in,,, and tagged,,,,,,,,. Bookmark the. Post navigation. BB This rifle really looks good for the money. I would like to know if the cutouts in the Nucleus Integrated Rail Platform are exposing the actual gas piston assembly or the cylinder that contains the gas piston like a normal set up. Descriptions are a bit vague.
In other words, is that a forged housing, with a rail, that replaces the cylinder that normally contained the spring piston assembly or new gas piston? If it is then is it safe to assume the barrel is attached to the forging with a pivot bolt or is it just a regular brake barrel set up slid into the forging? Seems like shock system installed behind it would make it operate like a small piece of artillery eliminating the need for the artillery hold? RidgeRunner I see what you mean. We have not determined the accuracy of the rifle yet and the scope that comes with it may be looked at by some as nothing more than a basic alternative for those with a visual impairment unable to use open sights effectively. Useful and adiquet for the job but not outstanding.
It was just an offhand statement that if any scope were used with this rifle the piston tube would probably have to be tight in the rifle to get any accuracy. However in hind sight both it and the upper rail cover would both have to tight in the stock to stay in alignment. Bob M I had a Tech Force M8.
It’s not even a magnum gun. I walked my Tasco red dot right of the back of the dovetail and smash d the back plastic end cap amost off. I didn’t notice till the safety started binding. I ended up drilling and tapping a hole in the tube in front of where the plastic end cap was and putting a set crew in for a stop. And don’t know if you remember when Crosman came out with the nitro piston 2’s that the picatinny rail was breaking the welds and the scope and rails were falling off. Alot more force is going on with a spring or nitro piston gun than you can imagine.
And I just really can’t see some body buying the ZR mount for a $149 gun. Anyway it’s just all speculation right now. But maybe not something that would be thought of when buying this type of guns. I alway thought that from cheap, accurate, nice trigger; pick 2.
Hope I am wrong on this one. I assume that you could put a weaker spring in the ball bearing detent to make it less “slap happy”. Hurts my hand after awhile. Any idea what the stroke of the TNT is? I guess they can be made much shorter than springs(for the same power). The whole gas strut got me thinking, alway dangerous! Has anybody ever made a rearward firing piston?
I would think you could make a double decker, underneath a rear ward firing receiver and then the barrel on top. Could make on interesting underlever cocking bull pump. Could the transfer port difficulties be gotten around? Man I wish I had an office to go into and just think.
-Yogi PS Why do manufactures flirt with the sound barrier? For us suburban plinkers, that crack is a MAJOR annoyance.
On one hand they advertise super sonic speeds and then they try and sell us barrel shrouded noise suppressing devices????? Yogi, Webley air pistols and their original air rifles have rearward traveling pistons. The issue is with sproingers you have a limited volume of air at a limited pressure. Such a configuration requires a long transfer port that also has multiple angles which will limit the power. There is no getting around the Laws of Physics.
Here is BB’s Webley. As for flirting with the sound barrier, that is what they think we want.
Reality is the only way to get there is using super light pellets which tend to be very inaccurate. None of my sproingers have suppressors on them and I do not have an issue with supersonic cracks. The rifle itself makes most of the noise. Hank, I had the idea the other day to drop the compression chamber below the barrel. Add a 90/90 transfer port like on PCPs. And then use the top portion, behind the barrel, to incorporate a magazine like the M-rod uses.
I did add a long bolt to the idea to advance the pellet into the breech. That would get away from the Swarm design. Since the upper “breech” portion would only house the long bolt, it could be made of lighter plastic. Sure, it is an extra step, but is a self contained repeater design. I think that the concept has some merit any way’s. Everyone Yesterday I posted about Rick Eutsler at airgunweb.com. I’m sure most of you are familiar with his reviews.
In any case, no one commented about my post so I am going to re-post it here again today. Rick is a victim of the Affordable Care Act and his family could really use some help with medical bills. BTW, I am sure many of the folks here in the forum have been to airgunweb.com and watched Rick Eutsler’s reviews. Rick has had some medical issues and ended up in ER with no medical insurance coverage. A “Gofundme” page has been set up for anyone wishing to help Rick out with these exorbitant hospital costs.
I think we as airgun people should help Rick out if possible. Here is the link to his story and the page. Halfstep You are fortunate to be working for company with a strong union.
I was a union organizer years ago and tried several times to get a union into our plant but the vote never passed. I had very good insurance there when I started but as time passed the deductibles got bigger and the coverage was less. It makes me cringe when I hear the government talking about vouchers. I know how that works because our company began a voucher (credits) system in 1986 when they made the decision to become self insured.
From 1986 until 2011, when I retired, those credits never got any larger but the premiums sure did. So every year our cost of insurance went up and the amount they allowed to purchase it stayed the same. Great program for the companynot so much for the employees. Now that I am on Medicare I purchased a Medicare Advantage Plan. I have dental and vision and my costs are actually much less for medical than when I was still working.
My advantage program is through Priority Health and for extra dental visits, hearing, and vision, my cost is $32 a month. If the Republicans don’t muck it up, you will be fine on Medicare. Everyone’s situation is different though and if one has a lot of chronic health issues, the choices would be different. Geo791′ I’m even more fortunate to be RETIRED already from a company with a strong union! My costs went up like everyone’s did over time, but the union at least gave us a voice and minimized those cost increases or traded them for benefits in other areas.
I’m sure it would have been much worse without them. Maybe I’ll seek out your advice when the time comes to make Medicare decisions. (still over 3 years down the road) I made a donation to Rick’s fund and thanks again for the heads up. Speaking of heads up, you should look at PA’s review of the Diana “Stormrider” PCP if you haven’t already. After seeing Tyler’s accuracy results I think I now want to see BB review it instead of the QB Chief! ( hint hint, again).
Halfstep Just finished watching Tyler’s review video. An entry level PCP with a multi-shot mag and exceptional accuracy for $199. It looks very promising and I will be watching for more reviews on it.
It is a Chinese rifle, as is the QB Chief, so quality may be questionable. On airgun nation, in Steve’s review of the QB Chief he said that the bolt and breech were as rough as a porcupine’s butt and the bolt was sloppy. But those things did not affect it’s accuracy.
Maybe the Stormrider will have better fit and finish. The 7-shot mag in.22 caliber makes it a standout in this price range.
I wonder if it would be difficult to fill with a hand pump being that it is a 230 bar fill? The shot curve was not the best over 25 shots. PERSPECTIVE It appears to me that the primary target market for the Umarex Forge is a first time airgun buyer. A firearm owner that needs an inexpensive solution to be able to shoot in his/her backyard, maybe he/she has a pest problem. A father that wants to buy his boy an airgun to learn how to shoot, etc. Umarex has done all the right things to increase the odds of the Forge being a marketing success: It has a traditional look It has a wood stock with checkering It has an advertised velocity of 1,250 FPS!! (you can’t do this in.22 caliber so the gun has to be.177) It’s lightweight It has open sights It comes with a scope!!
A combo package! The trigger is adjustable It has an automatic safety It has a noise dampener It has TNT (Turbo Nitrogen Technology gas piston)!!!!!!!!!! All this for a price of $149.95 This is a first time airgun buyer contender for sure. All the posters on this blog are well beyond this “first time buyer” point in their airgunning experience. This is why the chorus will complain about caliber, included scope, unknown accuracy, plastic, etc. Your points are valid, from your seasoned perspective, but it’s also important to understand the target market for an airgun, its’ pricepoint and then temper criticism from that perspective. That adjustable rear sight looks remarkably similar to the rear sight on my B30 that broke after a very short time.
Still, the rifle deserves a fair test. I’m eager to see how they made the cocking effort so easy. Perhaps they incorporated my idea of a counterwound spring on the cocking mechanism of my Gladius spring rifle Hank, I saw your offer of targets. With so few variables to work with, I’m definitely up for new targets. You can contact my. To continue my research into the reticle/target interface, I’m warming to the idea of painting a square with a one inch black border that will inscribe a circular target the size of the bull on the official NRA target.
This should work much better for my Garand post sight than the bull. I continue to wonder at the logic of the post sight. Since it was intended for combat, that’s how it should be judged. But if you are firing quick shots, you would seem to be better off with the triangle sight of the Mauser or even the thin post of the Enfield which seem to concentrate the vision on the aiming point. What do you get out of a broad post? I suppose you get a simple sight picture by using the post to divide the target in half for a center of mass shot, but that doesn’t seem consistent with any precision I saw Dunkirk and was not overly impressed, but there were great shots of the period gear which was what I was interested in.
In particular, there is a prominent scene with a rimjam in an Enfield rifle. But I think that gives the rifle a bad rap. Download Compaq Presario Cq43 Wifi Driver here. Provided one loads the rifle properly, especially by not forcing the 10th round into the magazine, you shouldn’t have this problem. My RWS 34P was delivered this afternoon at 3:30 PM 7/25/17. It was scheduled to be delivered on 7/22/17 but I just missed the FedEx guy by a few minutes so I had to wait until today.
I took a picture of the BKL scope mount. The rifle must have been jarred around a lot because the back ring appears to be slanting backwards. It is not loose so it must have taken a good jolt to move it. I will have to loosen the ring adjustments now so they can be realigned to my scope tube again.
Darn shipping guys anyway 🙁 Geo. Busy past week and had a hard time keeping up with the (great) blogs, so this one hearkens back to the Gamo Swarm... I’ll apologize because I’m sure you’ve answered this before but what’s your take on using super lightweight alloy pellets in springers like you did for that gun?
I’ve heard repeatedly that such low-inertia pellets start moving down the barrel sooner than heavier pellets, reducing the gas resistance that the piston encounters at the end of its stroke and essentially resulting in a dry fire. Since you used such pellets I assume you don’t think they’re an issue. At the other extreme, I’ve heard that extra heavy pellets can damage guns with the opposite effect–essentially plugging the barrel because inertia keeps them there longer than average weight pellets. Thanks for your thoughts–I’ve seen a wide range of pellets tested but couldn’t recall (or find) your commenting on this. Receive 10% off your next order when you sign up for PyramydAir.com emails. *10% off coupon code will be sent to the email address provided.
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